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Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:49 pm
by Kennyb41
Chelsea have spent how much ?
Chelsea have gone through how many managers trying to make things work ?
Chelsea have the money to buy the so called best ?
How long is it taking Poch ?
Will he succeed ?
After all this Chelsea are 12th, behind Fulham - Brentford - West Ham - BHA - Villa

How about stat then for some stats ?

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:55 pm
by Cjay
Kennyb41 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:49 pm Chelsea have spent how much ?
Chelsea have gone through how many managers trying to make things work ?
Chelsea have the money to buy the so called best ?
How long is it taking Poch ?
Will he succeed ?
After all this Chelsea are 12th, behind Fulham - Brentford - West Ham - BHA - Villa

How about stat then for some stats ?
Never mind that.

You are always coming with your condescending stuff to me.

I don't mind.

But you like to say you have this superior understanding etc to most on here.

So now go show it.

I've asked a question

Dont do your usual evasion tactic or wait for Weasel to come save you.

Please now go and answer those questions on the FarkeBall thread.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:03 pm
by Kennyb41
Cjay wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:55 pm Never mind that.

You are always coming with your condescending stuff to me.

I don't mind.

But you like to say you have this superior understanding etc to most on here.

So now go show it.

I've asked a question

Dont do your usual evasion tactic or wait for Weasel to come save you.

Please now go and answer those questions on the FarkeBall thread.
I've answered you before, in a multitude of ways, i'm not repeating myself.

I need no one to save me.

You need the net.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:11 pm
by Cjay
Kennyb41 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:03 pm I've answered you before, in a multitude of ways, i'm not repeating myself.

I need no one to save me.

You need the net.
If you have answered those questions before then fine just link the post i will read it for myself.

Perfectly normal questions to ask on here about our managers tactics.

So please just link the posts where you answer my questions and I will read it myself and do my best to understand

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:39 pm
by Jaydog
Cjay wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:40 pm Tbf that check took about 1 minute Jay that was easy to look up :lol:

I make nothing up I assure you.

I also put a lot of thought into all my posts :)

Contrary to what dear Kenneth thinks.

Pleased to see that it isnt just me though

https://www.youtube.com/live/BFXJWpOeGd ... fnT-fe_q1M
You know me Cjay, I’m not one for looking things up 😁 I let you do that.
Oh no I don’t actually think you make them up but are they any use? For instance if you gave that last stat to DF he’d probably nut you.
Hey actually do you remember Denis Pennis? I could see you totally doing managers heads in. Waiting outside grounds “hey Daniel what percentage of Germans make great managers” that kind of thing.
“Hey Ten Hag what % of your head has hair on it”
I’d better go I’ve got medication to take.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:11 pm
by Chilli D
Cjay wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:52 pm And less points than 70% of the top 2 at this stage in the last 10 years.
And how many of those 70% actually gained automatic promotion?
Not having a dig, just interested.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:17 pm
by Kennyb41
Chilli D wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:11 pm And how many of those 70% actually gained automatic promotion?
Not having a dig, just interested.
Doesn't matter, he'll still think you're having a dig.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:51 pm
by Overman
BradWhite wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:33 pm:zip:
My bad, I'm still screwing over that shitty result last night.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:54 pm
by 1964white
How the hell have I managed to watch a replay of that shocking match, a game littered with mistakes & little imagination from both teams?

Summary up later.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:57 pm
by White Riot
DDB220 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:47 am There was absolutely no need to swap Archie with Spence. Clarke realistically got the better of him about twice. The foul was necessary as Clarke may have got clear on that occasion. These occurrences happen in games. The reality for me was that there was a tactical plan to prevent Archie getting isolated on a 1v1 with Clarke (Clarke stats in this league this season are not by chance) James was to double up on Clarke. (Some moaned in chat during the game how James had to help out Gray ?) Sunderland did exactly the same against Summerville as did Blackburn last week - players of this quality can hurt any team if given time and space to run at a defender (regardless of who the defender is) so what teams do is to set up tactically to prevent those situations occurring. It is called a low block.


We don’t play a low block so players have to track back to help the defence when the opposition counter - that is the reality. Sunderland like Blackburn played well in those transitional moments and caused us problems.
Fair points DB, and Archie did have a good match.

But when he got a yellow that early I wouldn't risk him getting another.

So for me, Spence has a clean sheet to play with and might have needed less help, to free up James and maybe help to get Archie forward on the left.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:58 pm
by White Riot
1964white wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:54 pm How the hell have I managed to watch a replay of that shocking match, a game littered with mistakes & little imagination from both teams?

Summary up later.
:lol:

Like the rest of us you are a masochist when it comes to Leeds 8-)

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:11 pm
by Jaydog
White Riot wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:24 am Yeah, they had us sussed out and just sat back all night. We again had loads of possession but this time did nothing with it.

Proper titty goal they got though.

I'm not worried about Leicester, or Ipswich, they will sort themselves out. Leicester won't carry that jam all season. Ipswich are away to us and Leicester, and home to Leicester too, over the next five weeks. They will get nowt from them.

With some necessary recruits in January, left back and centre back minimum, and hopefully a play maker, we will win this. Leicester second, then Ipswich, Sunderland, WBA and maybe Boro in the playoffs.

Have faith mate 🙏💪

Still 25 matches left to go.

Losing Byram now with lots of matches coming up, is a big blow and again shows we should have recruited a left back.

We've been shouting that for years, but no f**kers listening. Our EPL experience showed that you don't get away with half-assing things

That Pritchard was given way too much time and space last night, same as Clarke, but Ampadu and Kamara are tired, and Archie is out of position.
Excellent. I’m glad it’ll all work out in the end 😁
Get that Chair in from QPR. No Chair jokes as I can’t stand them. Teed up for you.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:34 pm
by WhiteRose
Looking at the season so far the results you would be realistically disappointed with are

Birmingham away lost
Stoke away lost
Rotherham away drew
Sheff wed home drew

You could forgive Birmingham though given the state we were in. So 3 games we should have done better in, scored one goal against teams with an av position of 22nd - we should be 7 points better off now which would make the picture considerably better.

Just not sure I’d realistically expect us to do as well in the second half of the season.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:35 pm
by 1964white
White Riot wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:58 pm :lol:

Like the rest of us you are a masochist when it comes to Leeds 8-)
I'm a bloody fool, James.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:39 pm
by 1964white
White Riot wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:57 pm Fair points DB, and Archie did have a good match.

But when he got a yellow that early I wouldn't risk him getting another.

So for me, Spence has a clean sheet to play with and might have needed less help, to free up James and maybe help to get Archie forward on the left.
Apart from Clarke eating him up for supper, I thought Gray had a mare!

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:47 pm
by 1964white
White Riot wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:57 pm Fair points DB, and Archie did have a good match.
Ball watching for the goal, step forward a yard & Bellingham is offside.

His header straight to one of their forwards who skies his shot over the bar.

A couple of poor passes & lost possession in areas where we could have got punished.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:58 pm
by Leeds1000
1964white wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:47 pm Ball watching for the goal, step forward a yard & Bellingham is offside.

His header straight to one of their forwards who skies his shot over the bar.

A couple of poor passes & lost possession in areas where we could have got punished.
I was reading a Mackems forum and a guy said my Leeds mates rave on about Gray but he wouldn't make our first 11. That's RB for ya.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:53 pm
by 1964white
Leeds1000 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:58 pm I was reading a Mackems forum and a guy said my Leeds mates rave on about Gray but he wouldn't make our first 11. That's RB for ya.
Very difficult for young Archie in a team that generally under-performed last night.

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:49 pm
by White Riot
Jaydog wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:11 pm Excellent. I’m glad it’ll all work out in the end 😁
Get that Chair in from QPR. No Chair jokes as I can’t stand them. Teed up for you.
That Chair is talented 😍

But, I've heard that he's a Lazee Boy :sleep:

Re: Sunderland v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:51 pm
by White Riot
Madron wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:57 am Those games will define the season, If Us and Leicester beat Ipswich, the gap could be down to 4 pts and GAME ON.
We lose to Ipswich and a 13 pts gap will probably mean play offs.
Us v Ipswich is a nappy-wearer.
Aye, you're right Ron 😄

I'll get a few Immodium knocked down for those matches :)