Re: Derby v Leeds - Team/Reports/Ratings
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:45 pm
It was mate, he should have taken an early bathgessa wrote:think it was a red myself, late and intentional.
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It was mate, he should have taken an early bathgessa wrote:think it was a red myself, late and intentional.
Hernandez is a quality player & showed his worth when we spent more time attacking in the last 20 minutes as oppose to standing off, playing tippy-tappy stuff & passing the ball backwards for the majority of the gamegessa wrote:Hernandez much better since the substitutions
Taylor was also very sloppy & casual twice that gave Derby a cheap corner which led to their goalgessa wrote:I still think if Taylor had continued his run toward the ball instead of checking it, he would have got to it to block the shot from Russell.
Monk disappointed me yesterday by not subbing Wood earlier, he was never in the game, he never plays well after the international break always looks tired and disinterested, He has scored a few but his all round play is poor, time for a change, Antonnson should be given a start Tuesday.
Have to disagree there mate, Wood looked disinterested? He worked very hard off the ball and the only way Keogh and Pearce were stopping him was by fouling him, however, half the fouls weren't given. At one point Keogh literally jumped over Wood and landed on him. I remember in the first half chased Keogh about 20 yards won the ball back with a fair challenge and it was given as a foul we had a 3 v 2 situation before the foul was given, the game could have been so different yesterday .gessa wrote:I still think if Taylor had continued his run toward the ball instead of checking it, he would have got to it to block the shot from Russell.
Monk disappointed me yesterday by not subbing Wood earlier, he was never in the game, he never plays well after the international break always looks tired and disinterested, He has scored a few but his all round play is poor, time for a change, Antonnson should be given a start Tuesday.
I think a game does look different and you can judge players differently from watching live football to watching it on TV, but nothing I saw from Wood yesterday impressed me, I fully understand he played in those 2 games and then had a 20 odd hour flight to get back to the UK but these are young fit athlete's and should be able to cope, if not then he shouldn't have started the game. The last part of your quote does show how stats can be used to suit a point, Antonnson not scored since 20th August but how much game time has he had since then,, Antonnson had the same players around him as Wood did for most of the game and threatened more in 10 minutes than Wood did in 80. All about opinions I suppose mate.Gary Shaw wrote:Have to disagree there mate, Wood looked disinterested? He worked very hard off the ball and the only way Keogh and Pearce were stopping him was by fouling him, however, half the fouls weren't given. At one point Keogh literally jumped over Wood and landed on him. I remember in the first half chased Keogh about 20 yards won the ball back with a fair challenge and it was given as a foul we had a 3 v 2 situation before the foul was given, the game could have been so different yesterday .
He was tired, however, it didn't help he played 90 minutes on Sunday and Tuesday for New Zealand.
To be honest, there were a few passes from Wood which looked poor, however, half of the time it was down to players like Ayling and Sacko who will pass the ball to someone like Wood or Hernandez but they don't carry on running for a return pass. When Roofe came on he would pass the ball and carried on running.
Antonsson made a good impact yesterday (for the first time as a substitute for Leeds I will add), however, I would be very very disappointed if we are starting a player who hasn't scored since the 20th August ahead of a striker who has a better goals a game rate than Becchio and McCormack. Wood is key to how we play, the 3 behind Chris Wood were very disappointing overall yesterday.
There's no doubt about it mate Antonsson had a better game than Wood yesterday not doubting that for one minute. However, I think over the season Wood has been far more impressive than Antonsson and Antonsson hasn't done anywhere near enough in my opinon yet to be starting games.gessa wrote:I think a game does look different and you can judge players differently from watching live football to watching it on TV, but nothing I saw from Wood yesterday impressed me, I fully understand he played in those 2 games and then had a 20 odd hour flight to get back to the UK but these are young fit athlete's and should be able to cope, if not then he shouldn't have started the game. The last part of your quote does show how stats can be used to suit a point, Antonnson not scored since 20th August but how much game time has he had since then,, Antonnson had the same players around him as Wood did for most of the game and threatened more in 10 minutes than Wood did in 80. All about opinions I suppose mate.
My main point was Wood shouldn't have started yesterday.Gary Shaw wrote:There's no doubt about it mate Antonsson had a better game than Wood yesterday not doubting that for one minute. However, I think over the season Wood has been far more impressive than Antonsson and Antonsson hasn't done anywhere near enough in my opinon yet to be starting games.
I agree athletes should be able to play regular football, I would hope that I would still be able to play 3 x 90 minute matches a week, however, the travelling and the distance Wood has to cover playing on his own as a striker probably didn't help things. I don't know for when Wood was back in Yorkshire. However, the earliest he could have possibly left New Zealand was Wednesday morning and then arrived and with the time difference etc I would imagine the earliest he would have been training for us would have been Thursday wouldn't surprise me if we didn't have time to get him back into training at all to be honest. As captain of New Zealand there is no chance Wood is going to pull out any games for New Zealand so we need to come up with a better plan for when New Zealand next play. Maybe Wood shouldn't have started at all yesterday, I notice Aguero was on the bench for Man City probably because they were that concerned about him being match fit I would imagine.
With my 20th August stat Antonsson has started 4 games in that time as well as 3 substitute appearances, so that's 7 appearances without a goal.
Am guessing coming off the bench in the 76th minute v Fleetwood and scoring a last minute equaliser (in a match which would have really seen Monk in the sh*t if we'd lost) wasn't much of an impact?Gary Shaw wrote: Antonsson made a good impact yesterday (for the first time as a substitute for Leeds I will add)
weasel wrote:Am guessing coming off the bench in the 76th minute v Fleetwood and scoring a last minute equaliser (in a match which would have really seen Monk in the sh*t if we'd lost) wasn't much of an impact?
He also had a good impact when coming on in the first match v QPR albeit missing a good chance but had a very good impact and gave Leeds a bit of late impetus.
However I do agree Wood is integral to the way the team is set up to play but would prefer to see Antonsson come on alongside Wood instead of replacing him when we are chasing a game.