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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SaraM » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:35 pm

I dunno.

I think we may just be getting closer to Bielsa's vision of what he actually wants: small, youthful squad, each player covering three positions, 3-3-1-3, jazz football.

He definitely sees things in certain players and not others, and his vision doesn't coincide with any of the usual expectations, regarding player position or experience.

If he thinks he can rip the league with a couple of 12 year olds that no one's heard of, then he probably can, and I'm excited by watching him try.

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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by faaip » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:54 pm

Very very rare a kid playing European football settles straight away and becomes a difference maker

Probably will be another one for the U23's for at least the first half of the season
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SG90 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:31 pm

No more u23s please, need a bit more experience.

Gayle on loan, a CB and a Saiz replacement/Pablo cover is what we need. Don't want to hear about ffp, as we've made over £30m this summer selling players, so we surely can spend a bit. Not saying fortunes but £8-10m.

No more sales either. We were told we only needed to sell Clarke, funny how quickly that became Clarke, Jansson and Roofe. Any more sales is just greed.
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by faaip » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:40 pm

Don't think we need to replace Saiz. Janson, it seems, would have been our #4 CB this season and White looks a great replacement ...not sure many starting CB would come to sit on the bench and wait for injury. We could maybe use a 2/3 mill guy to back up Beradi...assuming you think Struijk is junk.

If Roofe goes then striker becomes critical for me though. Not sure if you buy first team starter and relegate Bamford or pay a little less for a back up...problem with that is back ups probably won't be great finishers
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SG90 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:41 pm

Still need to get rid of Anita, Ideguchi, Pearce, De Bock too.
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Post by SG90 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:46 pm

Hopefully we're still looking at Hefti from St Gallen. Only 21, but already played over 100 games and is their captain, so he would be a good signing.

I don't think Struijk will feature much, if at all. Likely CB 3 will be Berardi, then Ayling, then Davis, then KP. Or in a different order. But Struijk a distance away, unless he works his way in to Bielsa's plans at some point.
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SG90 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:48 pm

Anyone know if there's a certain number of homegrown players needed in the Championship, like the PL? I can only count Cooper, Forshaw, Bamford, Phillips, White, Ayling as homegrown, losing BPF and Roofe makes us shorter. U21s don't count, so that excludes Clarke, Shack, Roberts, Davis etc and Harrison is US developed, so not homegrown.
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Post by faaip » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:07 pm

Harrison was on Man Utd's books iirc as a kid. Would qualify him.
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SG90 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:50 pm

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Harrison was on Man Utd's books iirc as a kid. Would qualify him.
I think homegrown is if you spend 3 years in a youth team before the age of 21, so Kun and Struijk would become homegrown next summer and Bogusz in 2021.

I think Harrison moved at 14, so misses out.
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by faaip » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:52 pm

TBH. don't care, think we'll be fine
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SaraM » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:49 pm

faaip wrote:
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TBH. don't care, think we'll be fine
Agreed, but I'd still spend whatever we've got on a striker to rival Bamford, whoever is the best we can get. If Bielsa thinks that's a 20 year old from Europe, then fair enough.
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SG90 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:05 am

Yosuke Ideguchi back to Gamba Osaka for a "seven figure fee", so we've managed to make a profit on him, despite him barely playing since leaving Osaka.

I still feel sad about this whole thing. We never gave him a chance, but I felt he looked like a good signing and we cost him a chance of playing at the WC. Obviously not speaking English was tough and usually Asian players go to Germany before coming to England. Hopefully he can get his career back on track and get back in the Japanese squad.
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SaraM » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:24 pm

Looks like we're competing with West Brom and Stoke to take Dwight Gayle on loan.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... newcastle/
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by faaip » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:42 pm

meh...
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by leic white 63 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:04 pm

SaraM wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:24 pm
Looks like we're competing with West Brom and Stoke to take Dwight Gayle on loan.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... newcastle/
i would love him to join us , absolute quality at this level and ideal for our system but ........... wishful thinking methinks.

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Post by 1964white » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:17 pm

SaraM wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:24 pm
Looks like we're competing with West Brom and Stoke to take Dwight Gayle on loan.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... newcastle/
We need to jump in first before our rivals then Sara

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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by 1964white » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:19 pm

leic white 63 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:04 pm
i would love him to join us , absolute quality at this level and ideal for our system but ........... wishful thinking methinks.
Me too 63

Proven goalscorer, guaranteed promotion if we signed Gayle

Unfortunately I can't see us being first past the post to sign him

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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SG90 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:25 pm

SaraM wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:24 pm
Looks like we're competing with West Brom and Stoke to take Dwight Gayle on loan.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... newcastle/
Definitely need to get him in, he would score for fun in this side. The Roofe fee would cover his wages plus any loan fee for the year, so that should be good.

I thought WBA said they couldn't afford to keep him?
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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by BGwhite » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:35 pm

Get Gayle and promotion is much much closer, how ambitious is AR ?

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Re: 2019/20 Transfer Rumours & Discussion Thread

Post by SG90 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:36 pm

Forgot about O'Kane and Shaughnessy's existence. Need to get them off the books too.
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