Sergi Canos and Neal Maupay

[Cjay]

Watching them yesterday and they have everything we lack.

Maupay is a dirty sod, proper wind up merchant, but he is one hell of a striker, clinical to.

Canos game us the run around (not for the first time) pacey, direct, skillful, able to unlock a defence.

January 2017 Canos is at Norwich, out of favour, reports surface that we are after him, he likes tweets about us signing him.

YEP report we are after a loan and cant afford the £2.5mil that Norwich want.

Brentford can and the rest is history.

Lovely players the pair of them, wish our scouting department was able to find gems like that.

Oh, the pair of them combined cost less then Adam Forshaw.

[YorkshireSquare]

Could be the difference between another year in the Championship and promotion, a clinical striker.

50 chances created in the last two games, 1 goal.

[1964white]

Watching them yesterday and they have everything we lack.

Maupay is a dirty sod, proper wind up merchant, but he is one hell of a striker, clinical to.

Canos game us the run around (not for the first time) pacey, direct, skillful, able to unlock a defence.

January 2017 Canos is at Norwich, out of favour, reports surface that we are after him, he likes tweets about us signing him.

YEP report we are after a loan and cant afford the £2.5mil that Norwich want.

Brentford can and the rest is history.

Lovely players the pair of them, wish our scouting department was able to find gems like that.

Oh, the pair of them combined cost less then Adam Forshaw.

How many times have we mentioned these quality Brentford players ?

Benrahma is just as good too, had he played yesterday we may have been looking at a hammering CJay

Just look how all the less fashionable teams. Who have thought the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton, Watford, & Burnley would be a million miles ahead of us ?

[1964white]

Oh, the pair of them combined cost less then Adam Forshaw.

Che Adams cost less than Roofe & Forshaw

[YorkshireSquare]

Who have thought the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton, Watford, & Burnley would be a million miles ahead of us ?

Bournemouth, Brighton, Watford, & Burnley have had w while for their plans to take effect and to build. We've had Bates, GFH and Celino at the helm. Only now are we getting the spending off the pitch right to enable us to perform on the pitch. I agree, we should have invested in a couple more key signings but don't underestimate how far we have come.

[The Subhuman]

Hi Lads,

We're 3rd and they're 15th.

Cheers Lads

they can't be, everyone of their players is better than everyone of ours ..they must be top surely

[Cjay]

How many times have we mentioned these quality Brentford players ?

Benrahma is just as good too, had he played yesterday we may have been looking at a hammering CJay

Just look how all the less fashionable teams. Who have thought the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton, Watford, & Burnley would be a million miles ahead of us ?

I dont know how they do it Leon.

They have some sort of system.

Its amazing the players they have signed for peanuts over the years.

Canos, Maupay, Hogan, Benrahma, Jota, Egan, Dean, Colin, Watkins.

If they just kept the full squad together for a season and added to it they'd be up imo.

But they have a sell to buy policy, unfortunately they are far better at it then us and regularly sell for huge fees and replace for peanuts.

[Cjay]

Che Adams cost less than Roofe & Forshaw

Tbf his career was pretty average when Birmingham signed him.

12 goals for Blades one season, that was it.

But he was just a kid.

[leedsmad]

If we stay in the Championship next Season these are the players you look at trying to buy along with Che Adams , Lewis Grabban and Jarrod Bowen .
Daniel James is a must but think he will be playing for another Club in the Premier League.
Have a look at the shots on target in percentage form and Roofe is way down , players that there side aren't even in the Top 6 with higher percentages

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/cham ... op-scorers

[weasel]

I dont know how they do it Leon.

They have some sort of system.

Its amazing the players they have signed for peanuts over the years.

Canos, Maupay, Hogan, Benrahma, Jota, Egan, Dean, Colin, Watkins.

If they just kept the full squad together for a season and added to it they'd be up imo.

But they have a sell to buy policy, unfortunately they are far better at it then us and regularly sell for huge fees and replace for peanuts.

The things is though that they keep selling so they can afford to buy and with buying cheap they can take more risks. Don't know how many of their players don't make it but I also think if we'd have bought some of the players they did that they would have struggled under the weight of expectation at ER. It seems we have gone down the same route with our youth signings but we are looking to integrate them slowly.

Just look at the criticism the likes of Tyler Roberts got and he is still learning the game. At Brentford he would have likely played more, played in his preferred role and might have looked the best player on the pitch playing against us. Instead the player we all raced about a few months ago and suggested he was worth £20m, Jack Clarke, was the worst player on the pitch. Put him in a Brentford shirt and we just watch the highlights of his season and he is that £20m player again. If the Brentford players were so brilliant they'd be top of the table, however they aren't but played well against us.

[Ratscoot]

Players/teams massively up their game when playing Leeds as it’s often their cup final, they hate us and/or the games on TV and their hoping someone notices them (Leeds) and comes in with a bid for them.

Once these players land at Leeds they can’t perform to the same levels, I suspect many can’t cope with the large crowds week in week out and the expectation of playing for a big club, often proven by how well they start to perform once they leave

That said I’d have taken Canos when Saiz left, playing like he did yesterday he’d look a total work beater in a white shirt

[1964white]

they can't be, everyone of their players is better than everyone of ours ..they must be top surely

No untrue

Four of them are though

[1964white]

I dont know how they do it Leon.

They have some sort of system.

Its amazing the players they have signed for peanuts over the years.

Canos, Maupay, Hogan, Benrahma, Jota, Egan, Dean, Colin, Watkins.

If they just kept the full squad together for a season and added to it they'd be up imo.

But they have a sell to buy policy, unfortunately they are far better at it then us and regularly sell for huge fees and replace for peanuts.

Hardly surprising on their gates generally under 10k, not many corporate boxes, not much TV revenue plus the high costs of operating a small football club in London.

They do remarkably well to exist like many small clubs, every season Brentford give Leeds the runaround, it's embarrassing tbh

Walked a couple of miles to see their new ground, a new 16,000 seater stadium, pitch looked a bit rough, full of rubble & concrete spoke to a few Brentford fans down there

[1964white]

If we stay in the Championship next Season these are the players you look at trying to buy along with Che Adams , Lewis Grabban and Jarrod Bowen .
Daniel James is a must but think he will be playing for another Club in the Premier League.
Have a look at the shots on target in percentage form and Roofe is way down , players that there side aren't even in the Top 6 with higher percentages

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/cham ... op-scorers

Forget James now, he's on his way to a premiership club

Would love it if we showed a bit of ambition for those type of players

I feel Bielsa was behind the Casilla/James deals so hopefully if Marcelo has a big say on these matters hopefully we'll be looking at better quality players than the sh*te we brought in last summer

[1964white]

The things is though that they keep selling so they can afford to buy and with buying cheap they can take more risks. Don't know how many of their players don't make it but I also think if we'd have bought some of the players they did that they would have struggled under the weight of expectation at ER. It seems we have gone down the same route with our youth signings but we are looking to integrate them slowly.

Just look at the criticism the likes of Tyler Roberts got and he is still learning the game. At Brentford he would have likely played more, played in his preferred role and might have looked the best player on the pitch playing against us. Instead the player we all raced about a few months ago and suggested he was worth £20m, Jack Clarke, was the worst player on the pitch. Put him in a Brentford shirt and we just watch the highlights of his season and he is that £20m player again. If the Brentford players were so brilliant they'd be top of the table, however they aren't but played well against us.

After his illness at the Middlesbro' game Jack should have been wrapped up in cotton wool & put to bed for the season.

[1964white]

That said I’d have taken Canos when Saiz left, playing like he did yesterday he’d look a total work beater in a white shirt

Canos is a smashing little player with plenty of pace & silky skills. Three seasons with the Bees, surely a club will sign him up in the summer

Hope Marcelo has put him in his notebook

[weasel]

Forget James now, he's on his way to a premiership club

Would love it if we showed a bit of ambition for those type of players

I feel Bielsa was behind the Casilla/James deals so hopefully if Marcelo has a big say on these matters hopefully we'll be looking at better quality players than the sh*te we brought in last summer

Definitely. Although I think with James it may have been that MB gave Orta a list of what he wanted and Orta gave him a shortlist of which James was the one MB wanted. The signing of Casilla and attempted signing of James is very promising for us going forward as both look to be quality players, a shame James may slip away (although not ruling out promotion yet).

[weasel]

After his illness at the Middlesbro' game Jack should have been wrapped up in cotton wool & put to bed for the season.

To be fair the club did wrap him in cotton wool and he was kept out a lot longer than a lot of fans wanted. However for me he had already been making less of an impression before his illness so it may be that teams had worked him out a bit and he no longer had the element of surprise. Hopefully over the summer we can get him back to his best and at least his poor form will have lowered his value considerably that there should be no temptation to cash in on him.

[Genghers]

To be fair the club did wrap him in cotton wool and he was kept out a lot longer than a lot of fans wanted. However for me he had already been making less of an impression before his illness so it may be that teams had worked him out a bit and he no longer had the element of surprise. Hopefully over the summer we can get him back to his best and at least his poor form will have lowered his value considerably that there should be no temptation to cash in on him.

Plus he then had expectation on his shoulders. As an 18 year old making your debut from the bench there's essentially no pressure from the fans - we want the best for him and hope he'll make an impact. He did in his first few games, which had people calling him to get starts and a proper run. People expected him to carry on his form in full games and consequently maybe he was trying too hard. Since his absence he hasn't performed to expectation and he'll know that - it will be difficult for him to reach the heights of those early games for some time I suspect...

[Genghers]

I dont know how they do it Leon.

They have some sort of system.

Its amazing the players they have signed for peanuts over the years.

Canos, Maupay, Hogan, Benrahma, Jota, Egan, Dean, Colin, Watkins.

If they just kept the full squad together for a season and added to it they'd be up imo.

But they have a sell to buy policy, unfortunately they are far better at it then us and regularly sell for huge fees and replace for peanuts.

To be fair, we have done this in the past with youth products and players such as McCormack, Gradel and Kasper Schmeichel. We never seem to get massive fees (though i think as fans we tend to overvalue our own players), but we have made decent profits on them.

You say "If they had just kept the full squad together", but that's true of any Championship team. There are some great players down here, but invariably they get lured away by bigger money or better leagues. Not all of the players we have sold to the Prem have made a big impact, but Snoddy (I know he was Norwich first) and Taylor start regularly, Kasper is a PL winner, and Cook was in Bournemouth's plans before injury. Gradel is playing in Ligue 1 in France. Had we added to the L1 promotion squad, rather than losing our best players each season I suspect we'd have been up by now.

Tell me some huge fees they've received. Selling high and buying cheap is exactly our model for the past decade. It's a scattershot approach that sometimes comes good, but often doesn't.