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The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:10 am

Good Morning Everyone

Bielsa has revealed that he will stick to the same starting line up that beat Stoke and Derby.

Thinking out loud, the levels of intensity that the lads have shown over the last few games will surely mean that they'll get tired more quickly?

Thoughts?




Leeds have been drawn at home to Preston in the next round of the Carabao Cup!

It means we’ll play Swansea, Norwich, Preston and Middlesbrough in the space of 10 days.

Let's hope we see some squad rotation!




According the the latest media speculation, Leeds are eyeing loan moves for t Tottenham midfielder Luke Amos.

The 21 year-old plays a similar role to Phillips.

He started for Spurs against Barcelona a week or so ago, helping set up a goal and generally dictating play from midfield.




Posh playmaker Marcus Maddison could finally be on his way to Elland Road!

Posh chief Darragh MacAnthony has confirmed that a loan-to-buy deal could be a possibility for the player who was transfer listed in the summer.

Peterborough Today now suggests that Leeds United are leading the race for the 24-year-old.

West Brom and Aston Villa are also in the mix.
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by 1964white » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:37 am

Good morning Matt & everyone

Once again Bielsa thinking outside the box.

How many other managers reveal their line-up 48 hours prior to a game?

We have a really tough schedule until the end of August then the majortity of our players can take in a short-break during the international week in early September just like myself with my busy workload/social life :-D

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Dalton » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:21 am

Good morning all,

On the tired factor whilst that appears to be the case i was wondering exactly how much more energy and distance a player does than his like for like counterpart.
They wear trackers so does anyone know how much further they run playing the pressing style?
My my my, such a lot of guns around town and so few brains

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by HarryofOz » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:24 am

Hi EB

Bielsa trains them very hard. Tiredness won't be a factor.

Another player linked with Leeds? Apart from Messi, Ronaldo, Salah and Modric, has anyone not been linked with Leeds?
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by gessa » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:39 am

Ellandback1 wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:10 am
Good Morning Everyone

Bielsa has revealed that he will stick to the same starting line up that beat Boro and Derby.

Thinking out loud, the levels of intensity that the lads have shown over the last few games will surely mean that they'll get tired more quickly?

Thoughts?




Leeds have been drawn at home to Preston in the next round of the Carabao Cup!

It means we’ll play Swansea, Norwich, Preston and Middlesbrough in the space of 10 days.

Let's hope we see some squad rotation!




According the the latest media speculation, Leeds are eyeing loan moves for t Tottenham midfielder Luke Amos.

The 21 year-old plays a similar role to Phillips.

He started for Spurs against Barcelona a week or so ago, helping set up a goal and generally dictating play from midfield.




Posh playmaker Marcus Maddison could finally be on his way to Elland Road!

Posh chief Darragh MacAnthony has confirmed that a loan-to-buy deal could be a possibility for the player who was transfer listed in the summer.

Peterborough Today now suggests that Leeds United are leading the race for the 24-year-old.

West Brom and Aston Villa are also in the mix.

Morning Matt,

We have our 4th game coming up, no way should young fit sports men be tired, when you play the way we do, as Wenger did with Arsenal, training is all about certain fitness levels and working on systems and set plays, not running yourself into the ground in 5a side. If a player is carrying a knock that's different, but after the first 2 games, all these players deserve their place. I'm pretty certain M B will know if a player is tiring and will do what is required, like he did with Klich in the first 2 games.

These teams will mostly have the same schedule, I'm sure the Preston game we'll see changes.

Know nothing about the Spurs lad.

MacAnthony has a knack of bringing Leeds into it everytime he has a player for sale, not sure if he thinks it puts the price up.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:40 am

Who are Bielsa's assistants?
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Pablo Quiroga - assistant Quiroga, a fellow Argentinian who was born near Buenos Aires, has been a long-time ally of Bielsa’s in club football.

Having worked with him first with Chile’s national team, he was part of Bielsa’s staff at Athletic Bilbao, Marseille and Lille and a guaranteed inclusion in his corp at Leeds United. Now 36, Quiroga started out as a PE teacher and had only minor experience in amateur football before Bielsa first enlisted him as his “virtual blackboard”, to quote one South American journalist. His talent is in video analysis.



Diego Reyes - assistant Chilean Reyes, 37, is an out-and-out coach and the man who took the initial training sessions at Lille after Bielsa’s appointment as manager. The pair have been together since 2008 when Bielsa drafted him into the fold with Chile and he is arguably Bielsa’s most trusted lieutenant.

The story went that an unknown Reyes turned up at the complex where Chile were training and asked for work. Bielsa gave him video clips to edit and their relationship developed quickly to the point where Reyes became part of the Argentinian’s ‘iron circle’ of assistants. He has followed the 63-year-old to every job since.



Diego Flores - assistant A technical coach who has been on the scene for a considerably shorter time than Quiroga and Reyes.

Flores, also 37, linked up with Bielsa for the first time at Marseille after leaving Argentina to study in Ireland. Bielsa kept him in tow when he took the head coach’s position at Lille and brought him to England too.



Carlos Corberan - first team coach/development coach Very prominent in Bielsa’s technical area throughout the summer and since the start of the season. Corberan, who was recruited to coach Leeds’ Under-23s last season, has been moulded into something of a go-between at Thorp Arch.

United say he is “integral to the first-team set-up” - as proven by the fact that he has been present at every game and involved in Bielsa’s training sessions - but will retain “special responsibility for creating a pathway for the Under-23s and Under-18s, and ensuring consistency of football philosophy”.

Corberan gained managerial experience in Cyprus and Middle East but is better known in his homeland of Spain for a long stint as Villarreal’s number two. He has the advantage of being able to speak Spanish and English.



Salim Lamrani - translator Lamrani is not, or was not, a football man by trade. A multilingual university lecturer specialising in Iberian and Latin American Studies, he has written at length about relations between Cuba and the United States and was described in one newspaper as being “one of France’s best connoisseurs on Cuba”.

He appeared alongside Bielsa at Lille, accompanying the Argentinian to every press conference and working as his translator.

Lamrani is a lifelong Marseille supporter and took a keen interest in Bielsa’s work during his time as head coach there, writing once how Bielsa had “offered the French championship the most beautiful football of the last 20 years.”

The pair met in South America while Lamrani was lecturing and Bielsa invited the Frenchman to join him at Lille where he provided translation for both Bielsa and some of the players. Bielsa has a certain way with the media, refusing all one-on-one interviews in the belief that no individual writer deserves to hear more from him than any other. He is in the process of learning English but Lamrani, on Bielsa’s first appointment in this country, has had the job of getting his message across, sitting with him at all of his pre-match and post-match press conferences.



Marcos Abad - goalkeeping coach Drafted in after the appointment of Thomas Christiansen, replacing Darryl Flahavan, and survived the culls of staff which followed the sackings of Christiansen and Paul Heckingbottom.

Abad never played professionally but he has a UEFA Pro licence and was goalkeeping coach for Elche and Middlesbrough - on both occasions as part of a team which included Leeds’ director of football Victor Orta - before arriving at Elland Road.



Benoit Delaval - fitness coach Delaval is a French fitness coach who evidently impressed Bielsa during the Argentinian’s short and torrid spell as Lille’s boss. Delaval’s history with Lille went back much further - 12 years back, to 2006 - and he has been working in professional football throughout his career having studied sports science in Clairefontaine, France’s national football centre.

He stayed on at Lille after Bielsa’s dismissal last December but came to Leeds in the summer after Bielsa decided not to enlist his long-standing fitness expert, Gabriel Macaya. According to Delaval’s LinkedIn profile, he earned a UEFA A licence in 2011.



Ruben Crespo - fitness coach Another fitness coach who came to Leeds from Hull City in June. He was Hull’s head of fitness for 18 months having originally joined the club in 2016. His CV shows prior stints in Thailand and Russia, where he worked for Torpedo Avarmir.

He grew up and studied in Spain at universities in La Coruna and Vigo. Jorge García Valera - analyst Valera is a Spanish analyst whose last job was at Atletico Madrid. Levante had employed him previously. He is another new addition to the backroom team.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Chilli D » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:41 am

Ellandback1 wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:10 am
Good Morning Everyone

Bielsa has revealed that he will stick to the same starting line up that beat Boro and Derby.

Thinking out loud, the levels of intensity that the lads have shown over the last few games will surely mean that they'll get tired more quickly?

Thoughts?




Leeds have been drawn at home to Preston in the next round of the Carabao Cup!

It means we’ll play Swansea, Norwich, Preston and Middlesbrough in the space of 10 days.

Let's hope we see some squad rotation!




According the the latest media speculation, Leeds are eyeing loan moves for t Tottenham midfielder Luke Amos.

The 21 year-old plays a similar role to Phillips.

He started for Spurs against Barcelona a week or so ago, helping set up a goal and generally dictating play from midfield.




Posh playmaker Marcus Maddison could finally be on his way to Elland Road!

Posh chief Darragh MacAnthony has confirmed that a loan-to-buy deal could be a possibility for the player who was transfer listed in the summer.

Peterborough Today now suggests that Leeds United are leading the race for the 24-year-old.

West Brom and Aston Villa are also in the mix.
I will be absolutely delighted if we get Madison, I have wanted us to get him all summer.
As for the tiredness issue, I'm sure MB and his coaching team will monitor things closely and as players start to show signs of mental or physical tiredness they will be rested.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:42 am

1964white wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:37 am
Good morning Matt & everyone

Once again Bielsa thinking outside the box.

How many other managers reveal their line-up 48 hours prior to a game?

We have a really tough schedule until the end of August then the majortity of our players can take in a short-break during the international week in early September just like myself with my busy workload/social life :-D
Morning Leon, I know... Why reveal your line up 48 hours before kick off?

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

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Ellandback1 wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:42 am
Morning Leon, I know... Why reveal your line up 48 hours before kick off?
I guess Bielsa has bought into the "We are Leeds and we are coming to get you" mentality!
My my my, such a lot of guns around town and so few brains

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:48 am

Dalton wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:21 am
Good morning all,

On the tired factor whilst that appears to be the case i was wondering exactly how much more energy and distance a player does than his like for like counterpart.
They wear trackers so does anyone know how much further they run playing the pressing style?
Morning Dalton, good point about the GPS vests.

They measure heart rate, distance covered, high speed running, acceleration and deceleration.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:49 am

HarryofOz wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:24 am
Hi EB

Bielsa trains them very hard. Tiredness won't be a factor.

Another player linked with Leeds? Apart from Messi, Ronaldo, Salah and Modric, has anyone not been linked with Leeds?
Evening Harry, thats called keeping their options open. :)

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:51 am

gessa wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:39 am
Morning Matt,

We have our 4th game coming up, no way should young fit sports men be tired, when you play the way we do, as Wenger did with Arsenal, training is all about certain fitness levels and working on systems and set plays, not running yourself into the ground in 5a side. If a player is carrying a knock that's different, but after the first 2 games, all these players deserve their place. I'm pretty certain M B will know if a player is tiring and will do what is required, like he did with Klich in the first 2 games.

These teams will mostly have the same schedule, I'm sure the Preston game we'll see changes.

Know nothing about the Spurs lad.

MacAnthony has a knack of bringing Leeds into it everytime he has a player for sale, not sure if he thinks it puts the price up.
Morning Gessa, you're right about MacAnthony. I'm sure he's a closet Leeds fan!

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:52 am

Chilli D wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:41 am
I will be absolutely delighted if we get Madison, I have wanted us to get him all summer.
As for the tiredness issue, I'm sure MB and his coaching team will monitor things closely and as players start to show signs of mental or physical tiredness they will be rested.
Morning Chilli D, I wouldn't complain either though the price would be in the region of 6m.

Is he worth that?

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by HarryofOz » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:00 am

Ellandback1 wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:49 am
Evening Harry, thats called keeping their options open. :)
LOL :lol:
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Gandalf » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:39 am

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Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:52 am
Morning Chilli D, I wouldn't complain either though the price would be in the region of 6m.

Is he worth that?
He has a clause in his contract that he can go to a Champ or Prem team for £1.5M. I don't think he is worth that. Posh fans say he is very hit and miss, and not a team player.
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:10 am

Gandalf wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:39 am
He has a clause in his contract that he can go to a Champ or Prem team for £1.5M. I don't think he is worth that. Posh fans say he is very hit and miss, and not a team player.
Morning Gandalf, wow 1.5m seems a snip, even if he is a bit hit n miss.

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Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:10 am
Morning Gandalf, wow 1.5m seems a snip, even if he is a bit hit n miss.
There's a reason that he is being touted every pre-season, but he never ends up going anywhere. Peterborough are getting desperate, as he will be out of contract next season, and he will go for nowt.
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Cjay » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:53 am

G'Mornin

They shouldn't be tired, if there already tired then we have a problem. Think the way we press is important for energy levels.
Press like headless chickens then they will be knackered, press intelligently and as a group its less tiring on an individual which is what we have done so far imo.

Can see Harrison getting a start and Bamford in those games, be a good opportunity for Bielsa to see how deep his squad is before the close of the window.

Prefer Besic or Grujic.

Fan of Maddison, doesnt look like we are in for him, missed opportunity imo.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:27 pm

Cjay wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:53 am
G'Mornin

They shouldn't be tired, if there already tired then we have a problem. Think the way we press is important for energy levels.
Press like headless chickens then they will be knackered, press intelligently and as a group its less tiring on an individual which is what we have done so far imo.

Can see Harrison getting a start and Bamford in those games, be a good opportunity for Bielsa to see how deep his squad is before the close of the window.

Prefer Besic or Grujic.

Fan of Maddison, doesnt look like we are in for him, missed opportunity imo.
Afternoon Cjay, Bielsa said at his presser yesterday that it will be the same team v Stoke and Derby.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th Aug)

Post by Norm » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:17 pm

Ellandback1 wrote:
Good Morning Everyone

Bielsa has revealed that he will stick to the same starting line up that beat Stoke and Derby.

Thinking out loud, the levels of intensity that the lads have shown over the last few games will surely mean that they'll get tired more quickly?

Thoughts?
When you are truly fit and have fitness strength you truly do not tire - you feel you have limitless stamina over a game. If our players have that kind of fitness they'll be fine.

Leeds have been drawn at home to Preston in the next round of the Carabao Cup!

It means we’ll play Swansea, Norwich, Preston and Middlesbrough in the space of 10 days.

Let's hope we see some squad rotation!
Maybe all our second strings will be assimilated by then.



According the the latest media speculation, Leeds are eyeing loan moves for t Tottenham midfielder Luke Amos.

The 21 year-old plays a similar role to Phillips.

He started for Spurs against Barcelona a week or so ago, helping set up a goal and generally dictating play from midfield.
Would depend whether Spurs would want him guaranteed a place.



Posh playmaker Marcus Maddison could finally be on his way to Elland Road!

Posh chief Darragh MacAnthony has confirmed that a loan-to-buy deal could be a possibility for the player who was transfer listed in the summer.

Peterborough Today now suggests that Leeds United are leading the race for the 24-year-old.

West Brom and Aston Villa are also in the mix.
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We seem to have Saiz and Klich in that role but I suppose the more the merrier.

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