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The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:08 am

Good Morning Everyone

According to Phil Hay, Biels has targeted up to three positions to be filled by the end of the month when the loan window slams shut.

They are (in order of importance):-

A winger

Central Midfielder

Central Defender

Personally, I would have placed a central defender at the top of our wish list, but Bielsa knows best.





Talking about central defenders, Leeds have been re-linked with Spurs youngster Juan Foyth.

Speculation is rife from various sources of the media that 8m rated Foyth could be on his way to Elland Road on a season long loan.





According to the YEP, Leeds are chasing Liverpool's Marko Grujic.

The Serbian has already turned down Boro, a return to Cardiff and Torino.

Could Leeds be the opportunity he is waiting for?

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by 1964white » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:29 am

Ellandback1 wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:08 am
Good Morning Everyone

According to Phil Hay, Biels has targeted up to three positions to be filled by the end of the month when the loan window slams shut.

They are (in order of importance):-

A winger

Central Midfielder

Central Defender

Personally, I would have placed a central defender at the top of our wish list, but Bielsa knows best.





Talking about central defenders, Leeds have been re-linked with Spurs youngster Juan Foyth.

Speculation is rife from various sources of the media that 8m rated Foyth could be on his way to Elland Road on a season long loan.





According to the YEP, Leeds are chasing Liverpool's Marko Grujic.

The Serbian has already turned down Boro, a return to Cardiff and Torino.

Could Leeds be the opportunity he is waiting for?
Good morning Matt & everyone

Who can argue with the great man?

Bielsa knows the game more than anyone, he thinks totally out of the box, we are so lucky to have Marcelo managing/coaching our beloved club

Good to know he hopes to bring in three more players before the end of August

Apologies for my tardiness for not thanking you for the Bolton link, much appreciated Matt

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Shields53 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:48 am

Do we really need another winger?

Definitely need a centre half though.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by 1964white » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:55 am

Shields53 wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:48 am
Do we really need another winger?

Definitely need a centre half though.
So far Bielsa has used Cooper, Jansson, Berardi, Phillips & Ayling as his CB's

Concern for me is defending set-pieces plus if Pontus & Cooper are unavailable that problem would be even more of a worry!

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Shields53 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:57 am

1964white wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:55 am
So far Bielsa has used Cooper, Jansson, Berardi, Phillips & Ayling as his CB's

Concern for me is defending set-pieces plus if Pontus & Cooper are unavailable that problem would be even more of a worry!
In a fluid system I don't mind Ayling, Philips and Berardi covering or as one of a three but you really need two proper central defenders in there. Pontus looked off the pace and wasn't consistent last year and Cooper is always prone to a lapse. We've not had any real leadership in there since Bartley left.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Dalton » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:11 am

Agreed. I thought Pontus was half decent overall but Cooper very hit and miss. OK in the air but no good if you are off the pitch after being sent off again
My my my, such a lot of guns around town and so few brains

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:13 am

Phil Hay: Say it quietly, but there’s potential for a lasting legacy beyond Bielsa at Leeds United

There is a reluctance, almost a shyness, about Marcelo Bielsa when press conferences take a predictable turn and draw him into discussing the men who single him out as their keenest influence.

Where Pep Guardiola credits part of his coaching acumen to Bielsa, Bielsa hears only self-deprecation distorting Guardiola’s own genius. “In any of his teams I’ve never seen any sign of my traits,” Bielsa says, though the Championship must be questioning how true that really is.

Bielsa devotes himself to improving players, a raison d’etre stretching back 30 years. Any effect he has on the coaching fraternity is, apparently, unintentional if not quite open to debate. It is a quirk of the Argentinian’s career that he has mentored so many exceptional managers without actually mentoring them at all.

Guardiola picks Bielsa’s brain but has never worked with him. Mauricio Pochettino was in Bielsa’s hands more than once as a player, long enough to digest his methods, but did not coach beneath him. Bielsa has overseen an accidental factory, a production line he created without thinking about it;and yet the appreciation of him is such that a letter written by Pochettino helped Bielsa qualify for a work permit from the Football Association in June.

A glance at Bielsa’s backroom staff at Leeds United, the tight clique of lieutenants who bring everything together, shows how little thought he gives to nurturing what, in English terms, could be called the Anfield Bootroom. His assistants are staunchly loyal and professionally dedicated, South Americans who drop everything when Bielsa tips up in a different patch of Europe, but they hold the smallest of profiles and move around silently as Bielsa relocates.

At no stage have his closest allies sought to branch out individually or use their close proximity to Bielsa to manage a club in their own right. When Bielsa quit Marseille, his staff departed en masse. When Lille lost patience with him, they all did likewise. One day it will end for Bielsa at Leeds and the same will happen. The staff around him came to be known in Argentina as the iron circle; difficult to bend when the going is good and inclined to stand fast when the wheels come off. There is a reason why Bielsa commands that loyalty. So many of the individuals who work for him are in the game because of him; opportunists in a healthy sense. Pablo Quiroga taught physical education and coached in amateur football before Bielsa enlisted him with Chile’s national team.

Diego Reyes, more improbably, found a way into the sanctum by tipping up unannounced at Chile’s training complex and asking for work. He and Bielsa met then for the first time. Diego Flores joined the party at Marseille despite a fairly blank track record. Bielsa’s French translator, Salim Lamrani, is a highly-educated, multilingual academic but he is here through a kind stroke of fate: a Marseille supporter who warmed to Bielsa and succeeded in making Bielsa warm to him. In that company, Benoit Delaval – Leeds’ French fitness coach – stands out on the strength of 12 years spent in Lille’s medical department.

Most if not all of that team are in situ for as long as Bielsa is in situ. They come as a package. Which leaves Carlos Corberan, the one existing coach who Bielsa chose to draft into his inner circle a month ago.

Corberan, United’s Under-23s manager, had certain factors in his favour – fluent in Spanish but with a good grasp of English, a season already spent at Elland Road and evidence behind him of productive work with Leeds’ development squad – and, after sizing him up in the early days of pre-season, Bielsa asked him to join his bench

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:19 am

1964white wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:29 am
Good morning Matt & everyone

Who can argue with the great man?

Bielsa knows the game more than anyone, he thinks totally out of the box, we are so lucky to have Marcelo managing/coaching our beloved club

Good to know he hopes to bring in three more players before the end of August

Apologies for my tardiness for not thanking you for the Bolton link, much appreciated Matt
Morning Leon, just strange that a CB is at the bottom of his wish list, but if we can get Foyth, that would be amazing...

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:23 am

Shields53 wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:48 am
Do we really need another winger?

Definitely need a centre half though.
Morning Shields, it's a strange request especially when we have Douglas, Harrison and Alioski on the left and Ayling / Shackleton on the right. I suppose an out and out right winger could come in handy, but surely we're screaming out in central defence...

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:24 am

Dalton wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:11 am
Agreed. I thought Pontus was half decent overall but Cooper very hit and miss. OK in the air but no good if you are off the pitch after being sent off again
Morning Dalton, a few injuries in defence, and we're in trouble.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Cjay » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:39 am

Moring Ell.

Agree, id have it the other way around, but those are the 3 positions i hoped we would strengthen, prefer Besic as a player but for his height Grujic would be decent.

DOnt know much about Foyth but if Poch rates him thats good enough for me.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:18 am

Leeds United are ready to swoop for Iran international Morteza Pouraliganji, according to the Tasnim News Agency.

The defender, who can also be utilised in the centre of the park, was due to be joining Trabzonspor in Turkey having left the Qatar outfit Al Sadd, but the two parties were unable to reach an agreement in terms which has left the Iranian in limbo.

Pouraliganji came to prominence in the World Cup in Russia over the summer, where he played every minute of Iran’s campaign, and with his move to the Super Lig falling through there is an opportunity for Marcelo Bielsa to strike.

The Argentine was recently quoted as being likely to bring a player to Elland Road on loan, but he would not need to worry about temporary terms for the out of contract defender.

The fact that Pouraliganji can play at the heart of the defence or as a defensive option in the middle of the park is likely to attract Bielsa to his services, as he is currently short of numbers in both positions in his squad.

The 26-year-old Iranian was linked with Brighton and Hove Albion earlier in the summer. They signed his international teammate Alireza Jabanbakhsh, but could not agree a deal for Pouraliganji.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:19 am

Cjay wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:39 am
Moring Ell.

Agree, id have it the other way around, but those are the 3 positions i hoped we would strengthen, prefer Besic as a player but for his height Grujic would be decent.

DOnt know much about Foyth but if Poch rates him thats good enough for me.
Afternoon Cjay, Foyth would be our best defender by some distance....

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by gessa » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:28 am

Would also have thought it would have been the other way round.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Cjay » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:38 am

Ellandback1 wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:19 am
Afternoon Cjay, Foyth would be our best defender by some distance....
But would we be able to do a loan to buy?

Doubt it, not keen on anymore just loaning.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:13 pm

Cjay wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:38 am
But would we be able to do a loan to buy?

Doubt it, not keen on anymore just loaning.
Foyth has a big future in front of him. Doubt Pochetino would let him go.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:13 pm

gessa wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:28 am
Would also have thought it would have been the other way round.
Afternoon Gessa

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by gessa » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:15 pm

Ellandback1 wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:13 pm
Afternoon Gessa

Hi Matt, hope you're well mate.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by liggy » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:27 pm

A knarr s Ges means wheel.)
But watching fatty John Robertson having a bevvy and dribbling Atound the best In Europe
That's what's footy all about
As might be thick but as beat ya all at keepy up or darts bowls or boxing ask wor lass be fore she left is

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Post by 1964white » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:01 pm

liggy wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:27 pm
A knarr s Ges means wheel.)
But watching fatty John Robertson having a bevvy and dribbling Atound the best In Europe
That's what's footy all about
As might be thick but as beat ya all at keepy up or darts bowls or boxing ask wor lass be fore she left is
Oh dear Liggy, have you got your serious hat on here, has Sandra gone?

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