Paul Heckingbottom

[gessa]

So Clive, you accuse people of missing the point on here and only seeing what they want and not answering your question.
That is exactly what you did here, you tried deflecting my question by asking if I'd sign one. I was in a quandary here, if I said yes you'd come back as you did, if I said No, then you still wouldn't have given me a straight answer, you'd have deflected it back by accusing me of being happy with a pub team manager, again without answering my question, so I went with Yes, as the alternative is boring now, not the point but the same kind of post.

So can I ask again, If you're so unhappy about our manager and think it needs a protest, are you going to start one?

[Richard]

They can, they can sign a petition.

It worked for the badge.

I didn't start the petition against the badge, why hasn't the person who started that started one?

If you want to sign one, why don't you start one?

Can I ask who you hope would realistically replace him? I ask you to keep your feet on the ground and not head in the clouds, the replacement needs to accept no say on transfers and willing to work under Orta

[Clive]

So Clive, you accuse people of missing the point on here and only seeing what they want and not answering your question.
That is exactly what you did here, you tried deflecting my question by asking if I'd sign one. I was in a quandary here, if I said yes you'd come back as you did, if I said No, then you still wouldn't have given me a straight answer, you'd have deflected it back by accusing me of being happy with a pub team manager, again without answering my question, so I went with Yes, as the alternative is boring now, not the point but the same kind of post.

So can I ask again, If you're so unhappy about our manager and think it needs a protest, are you going to start one?

You've put yourself in a quandary by trying to get clever with me.

Now you've more or less admitted that you only said you'd sign a protest against the manager to get an answer out of me.

I wasn't deflecting anything, there's no point in starting a petition if no one is gonna sign it. If it gets ridiculed then it could be even more damaging than not protesting.

Instead of speaking out against this awful manager, you're being facetious with people who do, so when people like you change your attitudes it might be worth starting a protest.

[gessa]

Yes or no is all I'm after.

[Clive]

Can I ask who you hope would realistically replace him? I ask you to keep your feet on the ground and not head in the clouds, the replacement needs to accept no say on transfers and willing to work under Orta

You could flip that the other way and say if we get rid of Orta who's gonna be prepared to replace him and work with Heckingbottom.

And before you start saying it's better not to have someone in Orta's role, Heckingbottom said it was one of the attractions of the job as he was doing too much at Barnsley.

[Clive]

Yes or no is all I'm after.

I answered your question.

[Clive]

Yes or no is all I'm after.

Here's where I'm at.

If you start a petition I know I'll sign it.

If I start one I don't trust you to sign it.

Therefore it's best if you start one.

[gessa]

As I thought, slam others for not starting one but won't do it yourself.

[Clive]

As I thought, slam others for not starting one but won't do it yourself.

You've been waiting two days to say that to me, and even though you look stupid saying it, you can't help yourself.

[gessa]

You've been waiting two days to say that to me, and even though you look stupid saying it, you can't help yourself.

Now that's 3 times you've called me stupid.
So why do I look stupid?

[Clive]

Now that's 3 times you've called me stupid.
So why do I look stupid?

Because you were just being facetious.

You went through all that just to try and make me look daft for wanting rid of a useless manager.

[gessa]

Actually you pnly called me stupid twice but it would have been 3 times if I didn't agree with you on Bruce and Neil.

[Clive]

Actually you pnly called me stupid twice but it would have been 3 times if I didn't agree with you on Bruce and Neil.

There are none more easily offended than those who want to be.

[Cjay]

Incidentally there is a petition to get Orta out apparently. Havent seen it.

[gessa]

Because you were just being facetious.

You went through all that just to try and make me look daft for wanting rid of a useless manager.

I don't think youre daft for wanting rid of him, that's your opinion. It was the fact you slammed people for starting one kind of petition but not another, yet your feelings are so strong you won't do it yourself.

[Clive]

I don't think youre daft for wanting rid of him, that's your opinion. It was the fact you slammed people for starting one kind of petition but not another, yet your feelings are so strong you won't do it yourself.

But my point was why do people feel so strongly about a poor badge, but not a poor manager?

The guy who started the petition against the badge, should be doing the same for the manager.

As I've said, there's no point in me starting a petition if no one's gonna sign it or it gets ridiculed.

[gessa]

But my point was why do people feel so strongly about a poor badge, but not a poor manager?

The guy who started the petition against the badge, should be doing the same for the manager.

As I've said, there's no point in me starting a petition if no one's gonna sign it or it gets ridiculed.

Why should he, he might not be anti Heckingbottom.

[Clive]

Why should he, he might not be anti Heckingbottom.

And there's the problem.

[Clive]

He's finally put Hernandez, Saiz and Alioski together, then drops Lasogga for striker who never looks like scoring.

It's crackers!

Lasogga starts today and we win.

It's almost as if he's deliberately sabotaging us.

I knew he'd be no good long term, but expected more in the short term.

Maybe he knows he's unlikely to last long and so he's making us as bad as possible, he did admit to always hating Leeds after all.

[Clive]

A little light on the 'y'