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Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:36 am
by Cjay
Is todays player.

Captain, recently passed the 100 appearance mark, is in fact the player with the most club appearances on the books at Leeds now.

But, that is something the majority of fans cant understand, many of the fan base dont see Liam as a 1st choice player.

Cant fault his commitment, he must be a strong personality in the dressing room seeing as they picked him as Captain.

So, where do people stand on Liam Cooper?

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:43 am
by hector
His neck?? :wink:

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:51 am
by Cjay
Cant really put a positive slant on this to be honest.

He is in no way, shape or form a first choice Championship cb, not now not ever, the fact he is ours is the main thing id criticize Orta for.

No disrespect to Scotland, but they have had some shockingly shite cbs, Andy Webster, Steven Pressley, Steven Caldwell.

Andy Webster-71 games in league 1 for Cov, rest in Scotland, never for one of the big two, was distinctly poor, hence never being signed by Celtic or Rangers.
Steven Pressley- 200 odd games for Hearts, 100 or so for Dundee, signed by both Rangers and Celtic, barely played.
Stephen Caldwell- best of the 3 but still pretty crap, did a passable job at best in the Championship.

Between those 3 poor cbs they had 72 caps, Cooper hasnt any.

That for me shows just how poor he is, Scotland arent exactly blessed with great cbs.

Edit-In fairness he has at times done a passable job, average Championship cb at his best, normally, a poor Championship /good league 1 Cb.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:52 am
by Cjay
hector wrote:His neck?? :wink:
:roflmao:

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:30 pm
by Ratscoot
I for one was really pleased when we signed, he appeared to be a decent young CB with a lot of potential, at times (mainly beginning of this season) he’s looked excellent but often he looks average and always prone to a mistake., when we are under pressure he often panics and usually is the first to go flying with a two footed tackle followed by at least a yellow if not red.

As others have said he’s an average Championship CB and will make a good living at it but we need more than average, I’m happy he’s part of the squad, but at best he’s a squad player not a first choice.

As a Captain he’s done ok but again I’d say he a bang average Championship Captain and we need much better than average.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:03 pm
by 1964white
Average CB

Not a captain

Poor disciplinary record

We could & should have recruited a much better player to play alongside Jansson under our new management team

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:04 pm
by Cjay
Awful last night.

Nobody with Liam Cooper at cb can hope to challenge for promotion.

Idiotic challenge for there 1st, easily turned for the 2nd. Totally inept.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:36 pm
by 1964white
Cjay wrote:Awful last night.

Nobody with Liam Cooper at cb can hope to challenge for promotion.

Idiotic challenge for there 1st, easily turned for the 2nd. Totally inept.
He has been a bug bearer with me for years. I got ticked off from some folk on here for my criticism of Cooper. I was so pleased when Bartley & Jansson signed for Leeds, I honestly thought Cooper's days were numbered especially after his Sutton & Reading fiasco's.
Despair sunk in this season when he was made captain ensuring that he would be one of first players on the team sheet. Tbf he started the season well but as is so often the case with average players the costly mistakes soon become apparent. As you say Cjay we have no chance of success if we continue to persist with these type of players in our squad

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:15 am
by Ratscoot
1964white wrote:He has been a bug bearer with me for years. I got ticked off from some folk on here for my criticism of Cooper. I was so pleased when Bartley & Jansson signed for Leeds, I honestly thought Cooper's days were numbered especially after his Sutton & Reading fiasco's.
Despair sunk in this season when he was made captain ensuring that he would be one of first players on the team sheet. Tbf he started the season well but as is so often the case with average players the costly mistakes soon become apparent. As you say Cjay we have no chance of success if we continue to persist with these type of players in our squad
Ditto that

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:25 pm
by Cjay
1964white wrote:He has been a bug bearer with me for years. I got ticked off from some folk on here for my criticism of Cooper. I was so pleased when Bartley & Jansson signed for Leeds, I honestly thought Cooper's days were numbered especially after his Sutton & Reading fiasco's.
Despair sunk in this season when he was made captain ensuring that he would be one of first players on the team sheet. Tbf he started the season well but as is so often the case with average players the costly mistakes soon become apparent. As you say Cjay we have no chance of success if we continue to persist with these type of players in our squad
He's similar to Lonners.

Ok to do a job from time to time, cover for injuries and such.

Play to often and they get found out easily.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:41 pm
by faaip
He's a CB3/4 in this division..

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:31 pm
by NorfolkWhite
faaip wrote:He's a CB3/4 in this division..
Yep decent stand in at this level but shouldn't be first choice or Captain. Did have a decent start to the season but is failing to maintain those standards.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:25 pm
by 1964white
faaip wrote:He's a CB3/4 in this division..
So why is he TC's No.1 centre-back ?

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:33 pm
by faaip
3 reasons, he's experienced so the safer choice then Pennington doesn't look good and finally he's the only real candidate for captain.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:25 am
by 1964white
faaip wrote:3 reasons, he's experienced so the safer choice then Pennington doesn't look good and finally he's the only real candidate for captain.
Says it all then about our squad

We are simply not good enough !

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:37 am
by NorfolkWhite
faaip wrote:3 reasons, he's experienced so the safer choice then Pennington doesn't look good and finally he's the only real candidate for captain.
I’d have Pontus as captain over Cooper any day.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:51 pm
by Cjay
Liam Cooper vs. Barnsley:

44 touches
28 passes
8 clearances
6 aerial duels won
3 interceptions
3 blocked shots

Credit where its due, well played.

Now please don't be useless vs Villa.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:25 pm
by Cjay
Solid again.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:48 pm
by NorfolkWhite
Couldn’t fault Coops again today, very solid.

Re: Liam Cooper

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:05 pm
by faaip
Aye, did nothing wrong and hardly noticed him which is what I like from a supporting CB. Though maybe not for a captain.